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VIP user reports (30)

Glowing 6Positive 9Mixed 2Nothing 4Negative 6Bad reaction 3

30 reports

  • I’ve now started full-dose VIP and the first day I was on it, I could see clearly for the first time in a decade and my personality felt like it’s been coming back! A couple days later and I have energy!!!

    • 74 points
    GlowingEnergyNasal

    CIRS with POTS, EDS, MCAS, CFS; started full dose after clearing MARCoNS under a Shoemaker practitioner

  • Within 5 minutes I got a flushed feeling of warmth throughout my whole body and have not had a loss of circulation since.

    • 23 points
    Glowing5 days at posting; cycled through winter

    Raynaud's; follow-up a year later reports no attacks or chilblains, alongside other peptides and supplements

  • I've been taking it for a month and I'm finally able to start treating SIBO, as well as take things that normally make me constipated, like TUDCA, MegaIGG 2000, and activated charcoal.

    • 14 points
    GlowingGut100 mcg/dayNasal1 month

    methane-dominant SIBO with constipation

  • I passed vision contrast, off binders, walking 5 miles a day. I had significant atrophy so that will take awhile. Hence, stay on vip. That has been my miracle treatment.

    • 1 point
    GlowingNeuroprotectionNasal~2 years

    CIRS without MARCoNS; also IV ozone and binders

  • It made a massive difference. Started out as just random moments here and there after dosing of mental clarity, and improved VCS also started getting reduced pain and increase in lung capacity and I can exert my body again even started jogging and going on long walks.

    • 1 point
    GlowingEnergy300 mcg/day rising to 500Nasal~7 months

    CIRS

  • I just have the n of 1 and it was mold related. It completely removed a significant tremor I was experiencing. It was IV and this type of intervention should only be done with an expert

    • 1 point
    GlowingNeuroprotectionIV

    mould-related illness; IV VIP under an expert

  • Brain fog, fatigue, exercise intolerance, chronic urticaria, headaches, panic, anxiety, etc. is all much better. Life is livable again.

    • 4 points
    PositiveEnergyNasal9 months

    CIRS; 13 months of cholestyramine and 14 months out of exposure, so heavily confounded

  • I started VIP in November and tritiated up very slowly. The true, notable differences started nearly 2 months in.

    • 3 points
    PositiveNasal

    CIRS

  • While VIP definitely helps a lot, I feel that the Vilon really does the heavy lifting, and I think as a combo they're synergistic.

    • 2 points
    PositiveEnergyNasal

    ME/CFS / long COVID after vaccine injury; VIP combined with Vilon

  • Yes I did maybe 70% and now VIP has got me to 85%

    • 2 points
    PositiveEnergyNasal~2 months

    CIRS final Shoemaker step, MARCoNS negative

  • I should mention that VIP has been an incredible tool for me, other than the weight gain. I notice improvements monthly with energy & mental clarity

    • 2 points
    PositiveEnergyNasal~2 years (low then full dose)

    CIRS

  • I made nasal sprays and had used them for about three months when I first did a major travel day (12 hours including a long flight) and did not get PEM after. I had PEM for almost three years before this.

    • 2 points
    PositiveEnergyNasal~3 months

    long COVID/ME-CFS; homemade VIP + Vilon sprays alongside other anti-inflammatory supplements

  • VIP worked well for me when I was years out from major mold illness. My husband who had lyme/mold never really responded to it (even seemed to make him worse as I recall).

    • 1 point
    PositiveNasal

    mould illness; husband had Lyme plus mould

  • Fatigue, hormonal issues, neuropathy, constant headaches/migraines, and water retention issues like cramping all improved significantly or disappeared completely.

    • 1 point
    PositiveEnergyNasal4 months

    CIRS last stage; also moved home in the same period

  • It took me maybe 6 months to work up to a full dose. It was really bad at first, but once I got used to it and slowed it down it helped so much. I had to look out for low blood pressure when I took it, like more light headed.

    • 1 point
    PositiveNasal6 months to reach full dose

    CIRS final Shoemaker step

  • I got it done I’m all better. VIP made me gain weight im very thin and wanted to stay that way which feels vain to say out loud.

    • 1 point
    MixedNasal

    CIRS

  • At first, I had tons of energy, and now I feel really tired all day and awake at night, like a flipped cortisol pattern.

    • 1 point
    MixedEnergyNasal9 days

    CIRS from mould, Shoemaker protocol

  • I was told that the biofilm from MARCoNS prevents VIP from being absorbed...and my experience on VIP bore this out (got nothing).

    • 5 points
    NothingNasal

    taken while MARCoNS were still present

  • I have been on VIP for a year. I personally do not feel a difference but my VIP went from 24 to 31 so now in normal range and MSH went from <8 to 17.

    • 2 points
    NothingNasal1 year

    CIRS after three mould exposures

  • I’ve been on it for about a month. TBH I’m not sure if I’ve noticed a big difference yet…

    • 1 point
    NothingNasal1 month

    CIRS; doctor expects ~5 months; low thyroid and iron

  • mine is 100mcg in morning and 100mcg at night. I am at my two weeks now but seems not working for my gut.

    • 1 point
    NothingGut200 mcg/day2 weeks

    gut symptoms

  • I did full dose VIP and felt terrible after 10 days. I went back and tried 100 X and 1000 X, but I don’t think I’m over the initial strong dose. I’m ready to give up on VIP because my symptoms were too bad with it.

    • 2 points
    NegativeNasal10 days at full dose

    CIRS; started at 200 mcg/day

  • I did not respond well to VIP. My doc told me to stop. I spent 3 years waiting to get on it.

    • 2 points
    NegativeNasal~3 months

    CIRS, MARCoNS cleared, MSH 48

  • I had a terrible reaction (terrible cold like symptoms + awful PMS). I started taking it again. Still having a terrible cold like reaction.

    • 2 points
    NegativeNasal

    CIRS; ramped up too fast

  • After about two days, I found that it was super difficult to go to sleep, and also that I was waking up about two hour earlier than usual without being able to go back to bed, even though I was super tired.

    • 2 points
    NegativeSleep4 sprays/dayNasal~1 week

    CIRS

  • I feel like I’ve only felt worse since I started vip. Super anxious and irritated most of the day.

    • 1 point
    NegativeAnxiety2 sprays 4x/dayNasal

    CIRS, titrating toward full dose

  • VIP makes me nauseous and gives a headache and I don’t tolerate it that well, even just one spray.

    • 1 point
    NegativeNasal

    CIRS

  • I am on 60 days of VIP, (50mcg x 8). Many symptoms I thought were gone have come back strong, including seizures and apnea (not breathing). I am also experiencing extreme hopelessness, like nothing matters and never will again.

    • 3 points
    Bad reactionMood50 mcg x 8/dayNasal60 days

    CIRS

  • I stopped VIP 3 weeks ago too and I’m still bedridden. I won’t take it ever again, I’ll just clear MARCONS if I can and continue on with my life. It’s not worth it for me

    • 1 point
    Bad reaction~5 sprays over a weekNasal

    CIRS at ~60% baseline after a year of treatment; MARCoNS not tested before starting and later suspected positive

  • I’ve been taking 500mcg of vip daily and dam it’s strong. Face flushing hot skin and three days in had hectic itching over full body was crazy

    • 1 point
    Bad reactionGut500 mcg/day3 days

    self-dosed at 5x the usual amount; plans to stay at 100 mcg

Research notes, not medical advice. Updated .

Sequence

The peptide's chain of amino acids from its start (the N-terminus) to its end, one bead and one letter for each: A alanine, C cysteine, D aspartic acid, E glutamic acid, F phenylalanine, G glycine, H histidine, I isoleucine, K lysine, L leucine, M methionine, N asparagine, P proline, Q glutamine, R arginine, S serine, T threonine, V valine, W tryptophan, Y tyrosine. A modification such as an N-acetyl cap or a C-terminal amide changes how long it lasts in the body. Length tells related peptides apart, from a two-residue dipeptide like carnosine to a 43-residue protein like thymosin beta-4, and predicts neither effect nor safety.

Report grades

Every first-hand Reddit or X report is graded on its own, from glowing through positive, mixed, nothing and negative to bad reaction, and the bar shows how those grades split. Posts that look vendor-adjacent stay on the peptide's page but are left out of the counts.

GlowingPositiveMixedNothingNegativeBad reaction

% positive

The share of a peptide's graded Reddit and X reports that are glowing or positive, vendor-adjacent posts left out. A peptide with few reports is pulled toward the average of all reports, as if it had eight average ones besides its own, so two glowing posts cannot top the list. Peptides rank by this figure, those with no graded report yet after those with one, and Avoid ones after every other entry.

Researcher estimate

No first-hand report of this peptide has been graded yet, so the figure is the researchers' own rating out of 10 from what they read about it. It ranks after every peptide with graded reports until its own arrive.

Safety tier

Each peptide is tiered Clean, Caution or Avoid from its five risk axes under the chosen safety bar. An Avoid peptide carries a real risk of harm, a plausible route to serious harm rather than mere unpleasantness, so it stays listed with the reason but ranks behind every other entry, however good its reviews.

Safety bar

The safety bar sets how much risk it takes to rate a peptide Avoid. Strict: out on any serious mechanism with little human data, or any documented serious harm. Balanced: out on documented serious harm (unless it is obvious, reversible and from a regulated product), or a serious mechanism whose harm would be silent with no human data at all. Evidence only: out only on documented serious harm in humans that is lasting, delayed or from grey-market product.

Seen harm

Documented serious adverse events in humans, from 0 for none despite real exposure to 3 for deaths or several well-documented serious harms. Serious means a hospital or emergency visit or harm lasting weeks, so a headache or a bad night does not count.

Mechanism

A plausible biological route to serious harm at the doses people use, such as growth-factor signalling, hormone-axis suppression, heart or blood-pressure effects or immune activation. It runs from 0 when none is known to 3 when a dangerous pathway has been shown in living animals.

Data gap

How little human safety data exists for the molecule actually sold, from 0 for an approved drug with large trials and years of use to 3 for no human safety data at all. A modified analogue does not inherit its parent's trials.

Silent harm

Whether the feared harm would show quickly or stay hidden, from 0 when it is obvious and goes on stopping to 3 when it is silent and delayed, like tumour promotion or slow organ damage. User reports cannot reveal a harm that takes years to appear, so a high score here limits what good reviews can tell you.

Product

The risk of what people actually buy, from 0 for a regulated pharmacy or supplement product taken by mouth or on the skin to 3 for a grey-market injectable. In one dataset of 6,441 grey-market samples, 42–71% failed basic quality criteria and 15% carried endotoxin; taken by mouth or in the nose, a pack avoids the injection risks.

Evidence

The strongest kind of study behind the peptide's effects, from an approved drug through human controlled trials and small human studies to animal work or nothing of its own. Animal results often fail to carry over to people.

Access

How people get it: as an approved drug, a compounded prescription, an over-the-counter supplement or from the grey market, where nobody checks the vial. The channel decides both the legal position and the risk of a bad batch.

Price per month

Thirty days of the typical dose, from its low end to its high end, priced at the listing a careful buyer would choose: in stock, from a shop scoring 4 of 5 on trust (third-party tested where no score is set), failing that 3, a pure pack before a blend, a European shop first, then the cheapest per mg. The range is the dose's, not the shops'. A per-dose amount counts once a day unless the dose says otherwise. The shop table keeps each listing's price per mg, per gram for bulk supplements. Where no listing can be priced the researchers' own estimate stands in, and says so.

Dose users report

The middle half of the daily doses stated in at least five first-hand reports, vendor posts left out. Where its middle sits more than twice above or below the declared dose, the month is priced at it as well, since what people take is what they pay for.

Shop trust

Each shop's trust on a 1–5 scale, read from its testing and its reputation: 1 for serious red flags (fabricated COAs, scam reports, impersonation, a closed shop), 2 for no public testing, a new shop or active complaints such as seized parcels, 3 for its own COAs or a short track record, 4 for verified third-party testing or a strong reputation, and 5 for third-party batch reports that name the shop, with years of good independent reputation. A shop without a score counts third-party batch testing as 4, its own COAs as 3 and no public tests as 2.

Best value

Within a category or a goal, a peptide that no other beats on both counts: none is rated more positively for the same or a lower monthly price, and none costs less for the same or a higher rating. The chart joins these into the best-value line; the cheapest of them and the best-rated of them both make it, so the line spans the trade-off from cheap to best. Avoid entries never count, and a peptide needs both a % positive and a price to be compared.

Testing

Whether the shop publishes lab results: third-party tested means an independent lab checks each batch, own COA means the shop's own certificate of analysis, and no public tests means neither. A certificate shows purity, not safety.

Added peptide

Some packs sold under one peptide's name hold a second one, such as 5 mg GHK-Cu in a nasal kit, stated only in the description. Sprayed in the nose or injected it reaches the blood like an injection, so it carries the risk of that route and is tiered as the injectable form, whatever its tier on the skin. A pack whose page gives no contents list may hold more than its name.