- Onset
- Appetite and sugar cravings drop within the first one or two doses for some users; trial weight loss accrues over months.
- Lasts
- Once-weekly injection; half-life about 10 days, so effects and side effects linger after stopping (the label asks women to stop 3 months before trying to conceive).
- Access
- Grey market
- Cost / month
- ≈ €36–140
- researchers' estimate; no listing to price
r/Mazdutide· · 9 upvotesOriginal ↗
I’m on Tirz/Maz now and it works for me as I’m now close to target. Zero sides.
PositiveInjection
with tirzepatide, after trying survodutide
r/Mazdutide· · 8 upvotesOriginal ↗
Everything I've read said Survo should deliver better results than Maz, but in my personal subjective experience, nothing has shed pounds more effectively than the stack of Tirz with Maz.
Positiveup to 3 mg/week with 10 mg tirzepatide · Injection
r/Mazdutide· · 5 upvotesOriginal ↗
It also gave me such bad heart palpitations and my resting heart rate was like 130 that I thought i was going to need to go to the ER a few times.
Bad reactionstarted at 3 mg instead of 1.5 mg · Injection
grey-market vial after months on other GLP-1s
- Strict case
- Carries the GLP-1 class's serious-harm routes on its own label (pancreatitis, gallbladder disease, acute kidney injury, boxed warning for thyroid C-cell tumours in rodents) plus a glucagon-driven heart-rate rise; outside China it is bought as unregulated research vials and mostly stacked on tirzepatide, a combination no trial has tested.
- Users report
- Twenty-two first-hand reports, nearly all mazdutide added to tirzepatide (the 'ghetto reta' stack) by people stalled on a GLP-1. Twelve are good (a thirteenth, from a coach's account, is flagged as vendor-adjacent): stalls broken, 'powered through the last 25 lbs', more energy, and several prefer it to survodutide as gentler on the gut and heart rate. Two US trial participants describe food noise gone and better blood pressure and lipids. Complaints are nausea and sleepiness in week one, diarrhoea at 6 mg, insomnia, a higher resting heart rate, dizziness from falling blood pressure, one case of emotional numbness, and one person who started at 3 mg and had palpitations with a resting rate near 130. Reports are few and confounded by tirzepatide. Felt nothing: 1 of 22 reports felt nothing; one US trial participant lost only 23 lb in five months at 10 mg..
- Best effects
- Weight loss of 14% at 48 weeks (6 mg) and 17% at 60 weeks (9 mg) in Chinese phase 3 trials · liver-fat, triglyceride, uric-acid and blood-pressure reductions beyond weight loss · appetite and sugar-craving suppression · users report more energy than on tirzepatide alone
- Downsides
- Vomiting, nausea and diarrhoea (53%, 47% and 39% at 9 mg in GLORY-2) · higher resting heart rate, mostly during dose escalation · insomnia · dizziness or fatigue as blood pressure falls · injection-site and allergic reactions (7-8% and 3-5% in GLORY-1)
- Watch
- Acute pancreatitis and acute gallbladder disease (label warnings; obstructive pancreatitis and cholecystitis in GLORY-1) · Thyroid C-cell tumours in rodents at clinically relevant exposure (boxed warning); contraindicated with MTC or MEN 2 · Heart-rate increase from glucagon-receptor agonism (mean up to 4.6 bpm; sinus tachycardia 4.5% at 6 mg vs 2.9%) · Acute kidney injury from dehydration with severe GI effects (label); label says stop if resting heart rate stays raised · Label also warns of aspiration under anaesthesia and asks for monitoring of depression and suicidal thoughts (class precaution) · Stacking on tirzepatide doubles GLP-1 load in an untested combination; vials of unknown dose and purity
- Evidence
- Approved drug — approved in China (NMPA, June 2025 for weight management, September 2025 for type 2 diabetes) on phase 3 GLORY and DREAMS trials in Chinese adults; Lilly's US phase 2 (n=179) has posted results; not FDA- or EMA-approved
- Caveat
- Almost all efficacy data come from young Chinese adults (mean age about 34) with modest baseline weight, and only the 9 mg trial ran past 48 weeks. The 2.6-4.6 bpm heart-rate rise eased during maintenance in trials, but users stacking it on tirzepatide report larger rises. Dose response is steep: 4 mg and 16 mg are very different drugs.
- Typical use
- China label: 2 mg weekly for 4 weeks, then 4 mg, then 6 mg if needed after at least 4 more weeks; maintenance 4 or 6 mg once weekly (a 9 mg dose was filed in November 2025). Lilly's US phase 2 went up to 16 mg. Grey-market users: 1-2 mg start, 3-5 mg weekly beside 5-15 mg tirzepatide. Users report 340–710 mcg/day (median 570 mcg, n=7).
- Getting it
- A prescription drug in China (Xinermei pre-filled pens, launched July 2025); elsewhere sold as research vials, mostly 5-10 mg, shipped from Hong Kong or China and paid in crypto.
- Stacked with
- Tirzepatide: The 'ghetto reta' stack, adding glucagon agonism to GLP-1/GIP; the commonest use outside China, never trialled. · cagrilintide: Occasionally added for appetite, making a four-receptor stack. · retatrutide: Not combined; users switch between them, since retatrutide already includes glucagon agonism.